Should we report abuse? Regulars please respond.??
Question: When someone asks a question about tattooing, no matter what the question is, the haters always have nasty comments, impose their religious beliefs, and/or are not at all answering the question as posted. They just see the word tattoo and feel justified in harassing the individual who posts the questions and those others that respond.
If it is an opinion about tattoos in general type question, that would be fine; but if someone asks about after care, for instance, what gives these people the right to denounce our choice to have a tattoo? This is completely discriminatory. I think I would like to start reporting these haters for abuse, what say you?
Answers: I feel like they should be flagged, and I am not afraid to say that I do flag people like that.
Kinda to expand a little bit here, I also flag people that answer serious tattoo or piercing questions with the wrong information, and it is information that could be painful, damaging, or is in some other unsafe way, wrong. I am a professional, and it took me a long time to get where I am, with alot of tears, studying, mistakes, learinng, falling down, and picking myself right back up. But for people that have no idea what they are talking about to give advice on something that they do not fully understand, and for the questioner to take what they say as the truth, that is dangerous. I know this in not really a moderated board, but come on.
Sorry, side rant. I hate Yahoo right now for deleting me a few days ago.
absolutely! if there is no answer in site to the question then i say report away! but i wonder if they'll put you on a watch list for like excessive reporting? hmmmmm.
Of course it is abuse and should be reported. They are not responding to a question.
If you asked, what do you think about getting a tattoo? it would be perfectly fine to answer with: I hate tattoos.
The other commentary is pure harassment as you said.
Further thoughts: Regarding discrimination against gays - I bet they would be dropped from Yahoo answers in a heart beat if someone starting saying nasty stuff about gays here...same with any people of color, Jews, Catholics, etc. Should the tattooed have less rights?
To MoGM below:
I disagree with you completely. If they do not have a tattoo because they don't like tattoos, they SHOULD NOT be answering the question at all. Stating an opinion about tattooing in this case is still harassment.
I have been reported for some really stupid reasons. Not even using an abusive answer. Conversely, I have called a lot of people an asshole, and not been reported for that yet. I guess when the Yahoo staff reviews a reported violation, they decide if it should actually be a violation or not.
If it really deserves a flag then yes, but if I can get away with letting the trolls know how I feel about them, I would like to keep doing that. I like the shock value better.........
I will continue to believe that most of the haters just have yet to scrape up the nerve to get to the shop. They can keep their narrow minded views. We all win in the end, I guess. My favorite part is when the haters tell us how tattooed people are stupid and criminals,etc, and then they type worse than my 5 year old.
Actually I like to click their profile.....find a question that they have posted and then go take a dump on it....a big nasty runny one.... It's kinda fun to follow them around from question to question......giving the poor non-tattooed freak a taste of his own medicine..........Now truth be told most of these people don't travel to tattoos and go down the line hating on all our answers....They are in the home section and spot a random question about tattoos and give an answer off the top of their head.....The ones that piss me off are the ones you see over and over.....And I agree a general question.... Like should I get a tattoo....everybody is entitled to an opinion. But tattoo specfic advice (tattoo care, artist recommendtations, questions about existing tattoos....etc) should be hands off to haters......I do know that if they DON'T answer the question....and you report them .......they will get a nasty little note from yahoo and have their answer pulled (Jeans5454) has reported me several times.......for making statements on her questions as opposed to answers......something to think about...
I'm not a regular...but here goes.
It's up to the person who asked the question if they want to report anything as abuse. It's how they feel, not how you or I feel.
the bigger question for me is-if they hate tattoos so much WTF are they doing in the tattoo section??? they are here to get a reaction, nothing more. what worries me is when they give sarcastic advice, someone one day is going to take it seriously and come to harm, one guy told someone to take sandpaper to a scab!! its people like that, that give people like us a bad name, i dont know what the answer is but i feel reporting them wont stop them, that kind of mentality is impossible to reason with, Good luck tho, i will watch and see what happens
I personally gt tired of the haters myself. They do have a right to express how they feel! So i think it would be a waste of time, but do what you feel hun!
So, no... it isn't right for people just to kick up their score two points just for pooping on your choice in expressing yourself.
But I agree with not wasting the energy on reporting them. Just ignore it or give it a thumbs down, and if enough people think it's crap, it won't show up without someone clicking show.
As for people discriminate against others who get tattoos, well, they're just close-minded and ignorant. I had my nose pierced last year, and all of the judgmental overly-religious people at church would say things like, Why did you purposely scar the body God gave you? or That makes you look trashy, and it doesn't honor the Lord.
Whatever.
God gave us all different personalities and He is creative. People who make God sound like a stuffy archaic jerk are the ones who run off people from churches and are the hypocrites that give Christians a bad name. I love it when Christians are totally real and say Crap and express themselves.
Rock the tattoos, because they're wearing on the outside, what's on the inside!
Actually, you do have a point. A lot of the tattoo-hating answers are ill-informed and just plain rude, and, more to the point, they make no attempt to answer the questions (presumably on account of having no real answer to give).
I don't see people mentioning that they dislike tattoos as a problem per se, so long as they do it in the course of giving a sensible and relevant answer. But, as you've said, typically they just wade in telling us how we're all desecrating our bodies and we'll be sorry when we have wrinkles, when what was actually asked was a question about placement, aftercare, or the tattooing process.
I reckon you've got a good argument for reporting people - especially if certain individuals are repeatedly doing this. Go for it!
If they're insulting report them
If they use foul language, report them
People come to Yahoo Answers to ask questions, and get help. Not be insulted, belittled.
Report them, and let yahoo take care of it. If you don't report them, then they keep doing to others.
Good Luck
If they're really bad, I report it. It only takes a couple of clicks and about 30 seconds. If they're only kinda bad, I just give them the thumbs down.
If we can get a moderate or balanced attitude and response from every one on reporting abuse, Yahoo can, if they do their part, improve the general body of participants.
One would hope that Yahoo will work with you to diminish haters, who 1) offend others, 2) discriminate, and 3) don't answer the question in any real sense of the word.
Please, however, remember that it take all kinds to make this world, and there will always be haters, or detractors, to use a kinder word. Make an effort to let your skin grow thicker, so the haters' little darts won't pierce through to the tender meat.
I report abuse when it's shameless spam. If people want to come to a category and act like idiots I don't think it's abuse and you can always give them the thumbs down.
Try looking in the pregnancy category! If you think anyone is vicious about tattoos you should read what women say to each other about babies, parenting or pregnancy.
There are idiots everywhere, sweetie. At work, school, the playground and online. Most of them have teeny tiny wieners or are married to men with teeny tiny wieners.
as consenting adults we have the right to sport tattoos,drink,smoke....as long as we are not abusing anyone else in doing so,and we should not abuse or accept abuse from anyone in any way or fashion,on the other hand everyone has a right to their views and opinions,but some we should keep to ourselves so we don't offend or abuse anyone else or their rights.
If it really deserves a flag then yes, but if I can get away with letting the trolls know how I feel about them, I would like to keep doing that. I like the shock value better.........
I will continue to believe that most of the haters just have yet to scrape up the nerve to get to the shop. They can keep their narrow minded views. We all win in the end, I guess. My favorite part is when the haters tell us how tattooed people are stupid and criminals,etc, and then they type worse than my 5 year old.
You can. I have a few times when they have pushed it a little too far in my opinion but I normally just try to ignore it as the people that can't do anything afirmative in the real world so they post hateful words on the internet to hide behind being afraid, or interested or just ... stupid. My body not theirs, stop worrying about it ... and I don't care about when I'm 80 ... it will still be just for me! (sorry ... that is a run on like no other) Good question.
yep ..here...here
I agree most of my answers haven't even addressed what I was asking if you don't like my question...don't answer it!! It's as simple as that.
OK, let me start by saying, I really don't care for tattoos, but if that is your cup of tea then go for it. As for abuse I hate abuse, but abuse comes in many forms. Physical, emotional
spiritual and ignorance, which is someone who just don't know nothing and don't know how to treat someone else.
If I reported everyone who said something to me that hurt me or offended me I would never have time to do anything else.
So with that said, I would have to say unless the abuse was physical or severely emotionally abusive then don't worry about them, just shrug your shoulder and figure these are the ignorant ones and I would just figure let them live in their bliss. If that person was truly ignorant but wanted to know why then try to explain your feelings about it and why you enjoy it, if they cant live with that then they are truly ignorant but if they want more information then help them find it. I guess in all my ramblings I am saying, it depends on the circumstance of the abuse and how you deal with it, Me I would probably either laugh it off or try to guide them to more information.
It sucks but I would say it is their right. I'm not inked but it is cause of medical reasons not by choice. I love personal expression. Tattoos are the perfect venue. I love the chick with the bikini trim and a tattoo of a stick man pushing a lawn mower. ROTFLMAO ! ! !
I have one brother tattooed in the Philippines whilst in the Navy. Both my sons are sporting ink. Both my Sisters are. Some day when I'm convinced there is no hope anymore I will have my own art put on as a sleeve. When I die I will be cremated but I would like to be skinned and tanned to save the artwork for my grandkids to see. We are kinda morbid like that but WTF. It doesn't seem revolting when you think of it as a part of a loved one rather than a piece of skin. No different than keeping someones ashes.
As far as reporting these malcontents I say go ahead. Worse that can happen is someone tells you officially that it is OK for them to vent like this.
i agree with you...i also am disturbed by the fact that someone asks an innocent question, and you get all kinds of creepy crawlers out of the woodwork to render their opinion!
i think that you should report them however be careful about lunping those wwho do not like tattoos in with some sort of religous belief. I am and also know a lot of christians that have tattoos.
I agree with you about haters. I don't bother reporting abuse, but they get on my nerves too. I have noticed it a lot in the religion section. Someone will ask a question about God or the bible and these haters will answer only to say there is no God or the bible isn't true. They are entitled to their opinion but it isn't answering the question. It is just going in to try to abuse or insult someone for no reason.
I know nothing about tattoos, so I do not answer these questions as I have nothing to add and cannot help the asker.
By the way, these so called Christians who say that God is against tattoos are wrong. They have not read or do not understand the bible. They just do not like tattoos and are using God or his Word to bolster their opinion.
rock on!
What can I say? There are many dumbass people who make off color comments. Too bad they can't be banned.
I would like to just because it is a form of harassment towards other individuals that are different than you and would be similar in some sense to typing comments about other types of people, races, financial status, religion, sexual orientation, etc. I am not sure though whether it would do anything to slow up the comments. I posted a question awhile back about why they are spending time in the tattoo area but from what I understand based on the answers I got. Many individuals are responding to the questions when they see them on the initial page....and do not actually enter the tattoo area to find questions. I think in terms of reporting...some answers should definately be reported if it is defaming or purposely put down to make someone feel bad. I don't think the ones that say - you shouldn't get a tattoo - ewww because it will not be taken seriously and it's basically an opinion being stated...immature way to state but it is an opinion....On the other hand something that tells you that if you have a tattoo, you are trashy, scummy, horrible person, etc. (we've all read these before) - then that could be considered harassment? That's going to a little bit more of an extreme in telling someone that you don't like tattoos and there is alot of verbage used that isn't necessary to make the point that you do not like tattoos.
no cuz its there personal opinnion.
Why waste the time and energy on the haters? There is always going to be people out there that hate for one reason or another. Unfortunately sometimes, here in the great USofA everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Well you could report them, but I doubt that would change anything and their views on Tattoos. It is their own personal opinion. Yes I totally agree with you that they don't always answer the question that was asked. They just feel that they should write what ever it is they are thinking and don't care what the other person might think. There are people out there that are totally against it and you are never gonna get away from their nasty remarks no matter what you do. It is just like those who discriminate gay people. Every where you go you'll come upon those people. Even though you have people out there that doesn't like tattoos but they are not against others getting it, if they really want it. and you have people like me who like to see certain kids of tattoos, but not really a big fan. But is very respectable of a persons decision to get one if that is what they really really want.
I hope this makes certain things clear.
If you feel harassed in any way you should report them. If you think it was unnecessarily rude and uncalled for as well as put of the question, it is right to report them. How ever if they say something like I don't have a tattoo because I don't like them when you ask something about cleaning, it's best just to ignore it because it's a random personal opinion. Do what you think is right.
If it is an opinion about tattoos in general type question, that would be fine; but if someone asks about after care, for instance, what gives these people the right to denounce our choice to have a tattoo? This is completely discriminatory. I think I would like to start reporting these haters for abuse, what say you?
Answers: I feel like they should be flagged, and I am not afraid to say that I do flag people like that.
Kinda to expand a little bit here, I also flag people that answer serious tattoo or piercing questions with the wrong information, and it is information that could be painful, damaging, or is in some other unsafe way, wrong. I am a professional, and it took me a long time to get where I am, with alot of tears, studying, mistakes, learinng, falling down, and picking myself right back up. But for people that have no idea what they are talking about to give advice on something that they do not fully understand, and for the questioner to take what they say as the truth, that is dangerous. I know this in not really a moderated board, but come on.
Sorry, side rant. I hate Yahoo right now for deleting me a few days ago.
absolutely! if there is no answer in site to the question then i say report away! but i wonder if they'll put you on a watch list for like excessive reporting? hmmmmm.
Of course it is abuse and should be reported. They are not responding to a question.
If you asked, what do you think about getting a tattoo? it would be perfectly fine to answer with: I hate tattoos.
The other commentary is pure harassment as you said.
Further thoughts: Regarding discrimination against gays - I bet they would be dropped from Yahoo answers in a heart beat if someone starting saying nasty stuff about gays here...same with any people of color, Jews, Catholics, etc. Should the tattooed have less rights?
To MoGM below:
I disagree with you completely. If they do not have a tattoo because they don't like tattoos, they SHOULD NOT be answering the question at all. Stating an opinion about tattooing in this case is still harassment.
I have been reported for some really stupid reasons. Not even using an abusive answer. Conversely, I have called a lot of people an asshole, and not been reported for that yet. I guess when the Yahoo staff reviews a reported violation, they decide if it should actually be a violation or not.
If it really deserves a flag then yes, but if I can get away with letting the trolls know how I feel about them, I would like to keep doing that. I like the shock value better.........
I will continue to believe that most of the haters just have yet to scrape up the nerve to get to the shop. They can keep their narrow minded views. We all win in the end, I guess. My favorite part is when the haters tell us how tattooed people are stupid and criminals,etc, and then they type worse than my 5 year old.
Actually I like to click their profile.....find a question that they have posted and then go take a dump on it....a big nasty runny one.... It's kinda fun to follow them around from question to question......giving the poor non-tattooed freak a taste of his own medicine..........Now truth be told most of these people don't travel to tattoos and go down the line hating on all our answers....They are in the home section and spot a random question about tattoos and give an answer off the top of their head.....The ones that piss me off are the ones you see over and over.....And I agree a general question.... Like should I get a tattoo....everybody is entitled to an opinion. But tattoo specfic advice (tattoo care, artist recommendtations, questions about existing tattoos....etc) should be hands off to haters......I do know that if they DON'T answer the question....and you report them .......they will get a nasty little note from yahoo and have their answer pulled (Jeans5454) has reported me several times.......for making statements on her questions as opposed to answers......something to think about...
I'm not a regular...but here goes.
It's up to the person who asked the question if they want to report anything as abuse. It's how they feel, not how you or I feel.
the bigger question for me is-if they hate tattoos so much WTF are they doing in the tattoo section??? they are here to get a reaction, nothing more. what worries me is when they give sarcastic advice, someone one day is going to take it seriously and come to harm, one guy told someone to take sandpaper to a scab!! its people like that, that give people like us a bad name, i dont know what the answer is but i feel reporting them wont stop them, that kind of mentality is impossible to reason with, Good luck tho, i will watch and see what happens
I personally gt tired of the haters myself. They do have a right to express how they feel! So i think it would be a waste of time, but do what you feel hun!
So, no... it isn't right for people just to kick up their score two points just for pooping on your choice in expressing yourself.
But I agree with not wasting the energy on reporting them. Just ignore it or give it a thumbs down, and if enough people think it's crap, it won't show up without someone clicking show.
As for people discriminate against others who get tattoos, well, they're just close-minded and ignorant. I had my nose pierced last year, and all of the judgmental overly-religious people at church would say things like, Why did you purposely scar the body God gave you? or That makes you look trashy, and it doesn't honor the Lord.
Whatever.
God gave us all different personalities and He is creative. People who make God sound like a stuffy archaic jerk are the ones who run off people from churches and are the hypocrites that give Christians a bad name. I love it when Christians are totally real and say Crap and express themselves.
Rock the tattoos, because they're wearing on the outside, what's on the inside!
Actually, you do have a point. A lot of the tattoo-hating answers are ill-informed and just plain rude, and, more to the point, they make no attempt to answer the questions (presumably on account of having no real answer to give).
I don't see people mentioning that they dislike tattoos as a problem per se, so long as they do it in the course of giving a sensible and relevant answer. But, as you've said, typically they just wade in telling us how we're all desecrating our bodies and we'll be sorry when we have wrinkles, when what was actually asked was a question about placement, aftercare, or the tattooing process.
I reckon you've got a good argument for reporting people - especially if certain individuals are repeatedly doing this. Go for it!
If they're insulting report them
If they use foul language, report them
People come to Yahoo Answers to ask questions, and get help. Not be insulted, belittled.
Report them, and let yahoo take care of it. If you don't report them, then they keep doing to others.
Good Luck
If they're really bad, I report it. It only takes a couple of clicks and about 30 seconds. If they're only kinda bad, I just give them the thumbs down.
If we can get a moderate or balanced attitude and response from every one on reporting abuse, Yahoo can, if they do their part, improve the general body of participants.
One would hope that Yahoo will work with you to diminish haters, who 1) offend others, 2) discriminate, and 3) don't answer the question in any real sense of the word.
Please, however, remember that it take all kinds to make this world, and there will always be haters, or detractors, to use a kinder word. Make an effort to let your skin grow thicker, so the haters' little darts won't pierce through to the tender meat.
I report abuse when it's shameless spam. If people want to come to a category and act like idiots I don't think it's abuse and you can always give them the thumbs down.
Try looking in the pregnancy category! If you think anyone is vicious about tattoos you should read what women say to each other about babies, parenting or pregnancy.
There are idiots everywhere, sweetie. At work, school, the playground and online. Most of them have teeny tiny wieners or are married to men with teeny tiny wieners.
as consenting adults we have the right to sport tattoos,drink,smoke....as long as we are not abusing anyone else in doing so,and we should not abuse or accept abuse from anyone in any way or fashion,on the other hand everyone has a right to their views and opinions,but some we should keep to ourselves so we don't offend or abuse anyone else or their rights.
If it really deserves a flag then yes, but if I can get away with letting the trolls know how I feel about them, I would like to keep doing that. I like the shock value better.........
I will continue to believe that most of the haters just have yet to scrape up the nerve to get to the shop. They can keep their narrow minded views. We all win in the end, I guess. My favorite part is when the haters tell us how tattooed people are stupid and criminals,etc, and then they type worse than my 5 year old.
You can. I have a few times when they have pushed it a little too far in my opinion but I normally just try to ignore it as the people that can't do anything afirmative in the real world so they post hateful words on the internet to hide behind being afraid, or interested or just ... stupid. My body not theirs, stop worrying about it ... and I don't care about when I'm 80 ... it will still be just for me! (sorry ... that is a run on like no other) Good question.
yep ..here...here
I agree most of my answers haven't even addressed what I was asking if you don't like my question...don't answer it!! It's as simple as that.
OK, let me start by saying, I really don't care for tattoos, but if that is your cup of tea then go for it. As for abuse I hate abuse, but abuse comes in many forms. Physical, emotional
spiritual and ignorance, which is someone who just don't know nothing and don't know how to treat someone else.
If I reported everyone who said something to me that hurt me or offended me I would never have time to do anything else.
So with that said, I would have to say unless the abuse was physical or severely emotionally abusive then don't worry about them, just shrug your shoulder and figure these are the ignorant ones and I would just figure let them live in their bliss. If that person was truly ignorant but wanted to know why then try to explain your feelings about it and why you enjoy it, if they cant live with that then they are truly ignorant but if they want more information then help them find it. I guess in all my ramblings I am saying, it depends on the circumstance of the abuse and how you deal with it, Me I would probably either laugh it off or try to guide them to more information.
It sucks but I would say it is their right. I'm not inked but it is cause of medical reasons not by choice. I love personal expression. Tattoos are the perfect venue. I love the chick with the bikini trim and a tattoo of a stick man pushing a lawn mower. ROTFLMAO ! ! !
I have one brother tattooed in the Philippines whilst in the Navy. Both my sons are sporting ink. Both my Sisters are. Some day when I'm convinced there is no hope anymore I will have my own art put on as a sleeve. When I die I will be cremated but I would like to be skinned and tanned to save the artwork for my grandkids to see. We are kinda morbid like that but WTF. It doesn't seem revolting when you think of it as a part of a loved one rather than a piece of skin. No different than keeping someones ashes.
As far as reporting these malcontents I say go ahead. Worse that can happen is someone tells you officially that it is OK for them to vent like this.
i agree with you...i also am disturbed by the fact that someone asks an innocent question, and you get all kinds of creepy crawlers out of the woodwork to render their opinion!
i think that you should report them however be careful about lunping those wwho do not like tattoos in with some sort of religous belief. I am and also know a lot of christians that have tattoos.
I agree with you about haters. I don't bother reporting abuse, but they get on my nerves too. I have noticed it a lot in the religion section. Someone will ask a question about God or the bible and these haters will answer only to say there is no God or the bible isn't true. They are entitled to their opinion but it isn't answering the question. It is just going in to try to abuse or insult someone for no reason.
I know nothing about tattoos, so I do not answer these questions as I have nothing to add and cannot help the asker.
By the way, these so called Christians who say that God is against tattoos are wrong. They have not read or do not understand the bible. They just do not like tattoos and are using God or his Word to bolster their opinion.
rock on!
What can I say? There are many dumbass people who make off color comments. Too bad they can't be banned.
I would like to just because it is a form of harassment towards other individuals that are different than you and would be similar in some sense to typing comments about other types of people, races, financial status, religion, sexual orientation, etc. I am not sure though whether it would do anything to slow up the comments. I posted a question awhile back about why they are spending time in the tattoo area but from what I understand based on the answers I got. Many individuals are responding to the questions when they see them on the initial page....and do not actually enter the tattoo area to find questions. I think in terms of reporting...some answers should definately be reported if it is defaming or purposely put down to make someone feel bad. I don't think the ones that say - you shouldn't get a tattoo - ewww because it will not be taken seriously and it's basically an opinion being stated...immature way to state but it is an opinion....On the other hand something that tells you that if you have a tattoo, you are trashy, scummy, horrible person, etc. (we've all read these before) - then that could be considered harassment? That's going to a little bit more of an extreme in telling someone that you don't like tattoos and there is alot of verbage used that isn't necessary to make the point that you do not like tattoos.
no cuz its there personal opinnion.
Why waste the time and energy on the haters? There is always going to be people out there that hate for one reason or another. Unfortunately sometimes, here in the great USofA everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Well you could report them, but I doubt that would change anything and their views on Tattoos. It is their own personal opinion. Yes I totally agree with you that they don't always answer the question that was asked. They just feel that they should write what ever it is they are thinking and don't care what the other person might think. There are people out there that are totally against it and you are never gonna get away from their nasty remarks no matter what you do. It is just like those who discriminate gay people. Every where you go you'll come upon those people. Even though you have people out there that doesn't like tattoos but they are not against others getting it, if they really want it. and you have people like me who like to see certain kids of tattoos, but not really a big fan. But is very respectable of a persons decision to get one if that is what they really really want.
I hope this makes certain things clear.
If you feel harassed in any way you should report them. If you think it was unnecessarily rude and uncalled for as well as put of the question, it is right to report them. How ever if they say something like I don't have a tattoo because I don't like them when you ask something about cleaning, it's best just to ignore it because it's a random personal opinion. Do what you think is right.
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